We speak with Brian Jones, a security contractor from Florida. Brian was recently in Portland, Oregon to document and experience the protests. We spend a lot of time discussing this and hearing Brian's perspective. Brian is also a Covid-19 survivor who has lingering symptoms and complications that still persist. He describes his experience and how he remains hopeful. Brian is a witty, interesting guy who describes himself as an agent provocateur. Centrist or Political Anomaly. Troller of both sides of the fence. His Facebook feed is often hilarious and provocative - and the comment sections are something to behold - especially since Brian has friends from every part of the political spectrum. As I describe him - he likes to poke the fire - whatever color that fire may be. Great perspective on Portland and on Covid-19. A fun conversation.